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Skeptics with a K

Episode #328

Skeptics with a K

Skeptic Media Limited

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Science

4.8924 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2022

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Marsh and Alice present part one of their experiences at the Great Awakening Tour in Birmingham, a nexus of conspiracy theories, anti-vaccine activism, sovereign citizens, and amateur poetry. Meanwhile, Mike is excited for the casting of the new Doctor.

Mixed and edited by Morgan Clarke

Note: we made an edit to the show after publication to remove some comments about a statue that was made by a problematic sculptor (which we did not realise until after publication).

Transcript

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0:00.0

It is Thursday The 12th of May 2022 and you're listening to Skeptics with the K, the podcast for Science Reason and Critical Thinking.

0:20.0

Skeptics with the K is a production of the the Merseys Skeptic Society, a non-profit

0:24.3

organisation for the promotion of scientific skepticism on Merseys around the UK and internationally.

0:29.0

I'm your host, Mike Hall. With me today is Marsh.

0:31.4

Hello. And Alice. So last episode we talked about the

0:35.6

sci-fi thing is this sci-fi was that sci-fi did h-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-trels

0:39.5

invent sci-fi we did and I had lots of feedback from listeners on that I have had lots of feedback from listeners on that. I've had lots of people

0:44.9

getting in touch giving me their views but two people produced kind of like almost

0:49.4

essay length response to me. They wouldn't be the first people to produce essays on this very topic.

0:55.6

Indeed, yeah. But both absolutely vehemently disagreeing with each other. So I had one person wrote in taking a very, very hard line on no

1:06.8

Star Trek's not science fiction because it's obviously

1:10.1

Balak. Yeah because it's because it's obviously bollocks. Doctor who's not science fiction, Star Wars is a science, basically anything that isn't Arthur C Clark is not science fiction. Because science fiction has got to be hard, hard, hard, hard, to the hardest of hard science fiction.

1:24.5

That's weird that Star Trek wouldn't,

1:26.3

I mean, not to rehash the entire conversation

1:28.2

of it, but it's where that Star Trek,

1:29.5

in their mind wouldn't count as that fairly hard science fiction because everything in that is

1:33.8

meant to be extremely science-bears. Whereas Dr. Who, it's magic base, it's fantasy

1:39.2

magic in large part. Yeah, and Dr who kind of you know shifts around the genres as well you know it's some

1:45.8

Doctor Who stories can be quite hard science fiction some Doctor who stories are there's no

1:50.3

science fiction elements in it as all other than the doctor turns up.

1:54.0

Yeah, and the doctor is the only science fiction element in the story.

1:57.0

He often turns up, or she or he often turns up using some form of time travel.

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