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🗓️ 30 November 2023
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Craig Mokhiber resigned as Director of the UN's New York Office of the Higher Commissioner for Human Rights citing the organizations insufficient response to the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the pushback he received even before 10/7 when critiquing the human rights violations perpetrated by Israel. In our interview, Craig applies his expertise as a human rights lawyer to substantiate the claim that Israel is in fact committing a genocide and dives deep into what is broken at the UN, such as capture by US interests, and what must happen to advance the rights of Palestinians.
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0:00.0 | This war genocide is getting thrown around in a pretty inappropriate way by lots of different folks. |
0:05.0 | What Hamas wants, make no mistake about it, is genocide. |
0:12.0 | They want to wipe Israel off the map. They've said so publicly, more than |
0:15.1 | one occasion. In fact, just recently. And they've said that they're not going to stop. |
0:20.0 | What happened on the 7th of October is going to happen again and again and again. And what happened on the 7th of October is going to happen again and again and what happened on the 7th of October? |
0:25.0 | Murder, slaughter of innocent people in their homes or at a music festival. |
0:30.0 | That's genocidal intentions. |
0:32.0 | Yes, there are too many civilian casualties in Gaza. Yes, the numbers are too high. Yes, too many families are grieving and yes, we continue to urge the Israelis to be as careful and as cautious as possible, that's not going to stop. |
0:44.3 | From the president, right on down. But Israel is not trying to wipe the |
0:49.7 | Palestinian people off the map. Israel's not trying to wipe Gaza off the map. Israel's trying to defend itself against a genocidal terrorist threat. |
0:58.0 | So when we're going to start, if we're going to start using that word, fine, let's use it appropriate. So, All right, I am so glad to be able to host Craig Mo-Ciber on Bad Faith |
1:40.0 | podcast. You know him as the UN official who resigned at the end of October from his position as |
1:45.8 | director of the New York office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights over the UN's |
1:51.8 | response or I guess lack thereof to the ongoing siege of Gaza. |
1:56.6 | Welcome to Bad Faith podcast. |
1:59.5 | Thanks Brianna, happy to be here. |
2:01.2 | I'm so happy to have you for a million reasons in part because although you |
2:06.2 | resign from the UN at the very end of October the conversation about the |
2:10.4 | justification or your your at your stated rationale and your lengthy and detailed letter has not |
2:16.6 | died down at all even though it would seem to me that the evidence has only mounted since |
2:20.5 | then of genocide that is ongoing in Gaza. So I wondered if you would be |
2:25.4 | interested in going over again and further substantiating given the facts that |
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