Welcome to the McCarthy Report, the podcast where I, Rich Lowry, discussed with Andy McCarthy, the latest legal and national security issues this week. What else?

The double-tap controversy.

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podcast. And now, without further ado, I welcome to

this very podcast through the miracle of Riverside, none other than Andy McCarthy.

Rich, how are you? I'm good, Andy. How are you? Are you a, I don't know whether we ever talked

about this. Are you a college football guy at all? I'm a big college football guy. In fact,

I did write something for the magazine

over the summer about the big change in college football. And I was listening to you guys

talking about. Yes, I was curious what you thought about that conversation. We're talking

about the NIL and the portal and whatnot.

Yeah.

So my take on this is a little bit different from you.

I don't feel differently than you guys do.

I think the portal is awful.

I think the NIL is awful.

But I understand why they have the portal.

And I don't know.

The fact that it's ruining college football, the same way I think the money is starting

to have a corruptive effect, which is a separate issue from the gambling,

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