Episode 32

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

History, Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.0 • 63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2014

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In this season finale of Sword and Scale, we bring back many of the guests we've spoken to over the last year and ask them a fundamental question that relates to the nature of crime: "Is humanity inherently good or evil?" The answer comes from many different perspectives. They are victims, convicts, authors, podcasters, psychologists and neurologists. Their answers open a discussion into the nature of these abstract concepts and will leave you asking what you yourself believe. Thanks to all those who have taken part in Sword and Scale's success and we wish you a wonderful holiday season. See you next year!

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0:00.0	I don't think anyone's born evil.
0:15.5	That would be impossible to prove, and I just don't see how that would be possible.
0:20.7	But, you know, the conditions under which certain people would be impossible to prove, and I just don't see how that would be possible.
0:28.6	But, you know, the conditions under which certain people grow up and experience their life are certainly obvious contributors.
0:32.3	But in the end, I think information from Jeffrey Dahmer is very, very, very telling when they, very much like a narcissist,
0:41.5	they will deflect blame from themselves.
0:45.4	But where Jeffrey Dahmer said, listen, no, no, no, don't blame my family.
0:48.5	Don't blame my family.
0:50.6	I wanted to do this.
0:53.4	I want.
0:57.2	And he was very articulate, very intelligent, and sounding very, very sane and grounded when he made these statements. I think we've got to go with that.
1:02.9	Not a guy that studied Jeffrey Dahmer from 15-minute interviews. And I think so. People aren't
1:08.5	born evil, but they certainly, definitely, you can't, I'm not going to call it anything else. They become evil and delve in evil.
1:18.6	Evil. Hello and welcome to episode 32 of Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.
1:42.1	That was Dan Zupansky in the opener, author of Trophy Kill,
1:45.7	The Shall We Dance Murder, and host of the True Crime podcast, True Murder. This week, we have
1:51.2	something a little different plan for you. When I launched this program, I wanted to create
1:55.8	something different that hadn't been done before to combine a captivating and brutally real genre such as true crime
2:02.5	with immersive storytelling. When I came up with the concept for Sort and Scale a little over a year
2:07.7	ago, there were only a handful of not very well-known true crime podcasts out there. But since then,
2:14.0	the landscape has changed drastically. And right now, today,
2:18.5	True Crime is the number one podcast genre in the world.
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