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A History of the United States

Episode 32 - The Fusion of Church and State

A History of the United States

Jamie Redfern

Higher Education, History, Education, Society & Culture

4.6519 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2016

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This week we look at the first few years of Massachusetts colony, which greatly contrasts to Plymouth. It is very oligarchic, had has something of a fusion of church and state.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to a history of the United States.

0:20.0

Episode 32, the fusion of Church and State.

0:25.4

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0:33.5

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0:39.2

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0:46.1

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0:53.9

Last time out, we looked at the foundation of the Massachusetts Bay Company, and introduced John Winthrop into the narrative, electing him governor of Massachusetts in 1629.

1:08.5

This was all to set up the expedition, which was to be launched next year, which we can now turn to.

1:15.8

In April 1630, 400 settlers set off from the Isle of Wight on the south coast of England, heading for the New World.

1:25.8

It was a two-month voyage, and they reached their destination in early June.

1:31.8

But they were not very pleased by what they found there. What they were met with was the

1:38.1

remnants of the old colonists at Salem, and they were not in a good way. It had been selected for their base,

1:48.7

but there was little good land there, and a large population couldn't be supported.

1:55.2

400 settlers was a huge number for the time. Plymouth was almost 10 years old, and still only numbered around 300.

2:05.0

What little land there was hadn't been cleared, housing hadn't even been built. Most of the

2:12.6

population lived in a mixture of tents and wigwams. It wasn't a very promising site for Winthrop's

2:20.8

city on a hill. This could have ended very badly. James Town was a bad site for a capital in Virginia,

2:31.5

yet it would take decades for the heart of the colony to move to a more

2:35.4

suitable location. Had the Puritans been as obstinate, perhaps I'd be telling you the story

2:43.0

of how they settled in a bad location and all starved to death, like happened at Jamestown,

2:49.7

but they didn't, so I won't. Winthrop was an intelligent man,

2:55.1

and he was able to recognize the problems they would have down the line, so he moved south.

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