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Sword and Scale

Episode 318

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

True Crime, Entrepreneurship, Business, Society & Culture, Documentary, History

461.1K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

When 27-year-old Jamie Haggard vanished from her Kenmore, WA home in June 2016, she was just another name added to the long list of missing people in King County. Eventually, weeks turned into months. After several dead ends, sifting suspects, and body parts kept turning up across Northern Washington, identifying who these victims were proved to be much more difficult than investigators could have ever imagined…

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0:00.0

I have something to say and I hope you'll indulge me for a minute.

0:05.6

After the tragic and horrifying events of last week, I wanted to give up.

0:14.6

I feel as though I'm such a bad communicator and so bad at my job, my only job, that I end up arguing with my audience on social

0:27.6

media rather than convincing them of my points here on my program. But after a lot of self-reflection, a lot of what I guess they would call soul-searching,

0:42.2

and the love and support of those closest to me,

0:45.9

have come to realize that this is just the beginning, not the end.

0:53.6

Evil flourishes in darkness, in complacency.

1:00.0

There is more work to be done.

1:04.0

There is more truth to be spread.

1:07.0

And if I'm not equipped to effectively do my job, then I simply need to work harder and get better at it.

1:18.7

So here's a little bit of truth for you.

1:22.6

Here's the hot take I've come up with.

1:29.7

If you celebrate the murder of someone simply because

1:31.3

they have different beliefs than you

1:33.1

simply because

1:35.0

of their words

1:36.3

simply because they

1:37.8

hurt your feelings

1:39.6

then you

1:41.6

are the problem

1:43.7

you are the problem.

1:48.0

You are the monster.

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