You know, some of my leftists come around and say, well,

probably let's go to both sides view now because he's concerned

with the humanity of Jews and the humanity of Palestinians.

I said, you're absolutely right.

I'm always concerned about humanity,

oppressors, Jewish brothers, sisters, and precious Palestinians.

But I understand the fact that 75 years of war crimes

involve barric treatment of Palestinians

creates a backdrop in which you end up with a group

that responds to collective punishment

by giving collective punishment.

It is my sincerest pleasure to welcome presidential candidate,

Dr. Cornell West, back to the podcast.

Welcome back.

Oh, he's blessing him to be in conversation with him.

And he's very grim and dim times.

He got to be steadfast.

We got to be strong.

Yes, of course, we're recording this just a few days

on the Tuesday after the Hamas attack in Israel

and the consequent fighting and retaliation.

And we're going to get into that more in detail later

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