Hello and welcome to Forever 35 a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dory Schaffreier

and I'm Elise Hugh and we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

You know along those lines, Elise, I have had such a, I've done such a full 180 on a

serum that I am like, I don't even know what to say.

So a few years ago, I on this podcast, on this very podcast,

I came out like hard against vitamin C as a serum as an ingredient. I was like I

break out it doesn't do anything for me I remember this this. I think it's pointless. Like I was just like, no, I hate it. And now I'm like, I love it. And I have mentioned this turn on before, but I just I want our listeners to know that I'm still on the vitamin C train and I think that it is helping with my skin's recovery from playing so much tennis.

Because even though I use a ton of sunscreen,

but like it's still, I'm still playing a lot of times like in the full sun.

And so no matter how much sunscreen you put on, it's like, you're still going to get some sun and I feel like the vitamin C has been helping

with that. Germatologists like vitamin C for hyper pigmentation, right?

So it makes sense that if you are getting a little bit more sun

and you're like redder or splotchier in places

that vitamin C could kind of even things out.

Would do a good job of that.

The other thing that I'm doing and I feel like I forget where I picked this up from, but I've like pretty much stopped using my Tretin-Oin in the summer. Because Tretinoan in the summer.

Because Tretinoan makes your skin more sensitive to sun. And the sun here is so strong in the summer

that I'm just, and I'm outside so much now that I'm like this will not be good for me.

That's similar to laser facials. Like the guidance is never get a laser facial during times where the days are very long.

You should always get laser facials when around the winter solstice,

which are the longest nights of the year because you are not going to even chance being in direct sunlight as much.

Oh, that's so interesting. That makes so much sense though. So save your laser facials for the winter

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