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I've been working on a huge piece on Jeffrey Epstein's death, which I hope we'll publish tomorrow.

But I'm even more convinced having looked at it extremely carefully now that he committed suicide.

And I don't even believe, I hate to say, Andy, you and Alan Dershowitz theory that the prison staff deliberately made it possible for him to commit suicide.

These people, they're so lazy.

They're so moronic.

If you told them to do that, they would have effed it up.

They would have accidentally taken all the sheets out of his cell and actually had a cellmate with them.

They couldn't do anything right.

So I think the classic choice between conspiracy and incompetence, which we have in a lot of these things, it's so incompetence.

It's incompetence up and down through and through.

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