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Very Bad Wizards

Episode 310: Bayes, Brains, and Buddhists

Very Bad Wizards

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.83K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

David and Tamler try to wrap their heads around the predictive processing theory of the mind and brain function and talk about a paper that applies the framework to meditation practices. But first a new Psychological Science article expresses skepticism about the existence of people who have no inner voice. So is David a new kind of human or is he just making up this condition to get attention?

Assistant Editor’s note: When Tamler says he doesn’t talk to his dog “weirdly often,” he is lying.  

Lind, A. (2024). Are There Really People With No Inner Voice? Commentary on Nedergaard and Lupyan (2024). Psychological Science, 09567976251335583.

Laukkonen, R. E., & Slagter, H. A. (2021). From many to (n) one: Meditation and the plasticity of the predictive mind. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, 128, 199-217.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Very Bad Wizards is a podcast with a philosopher, my dad, and psychologist Dave Vizarro, having an informal discussion about issues in science and ethics.

0:09.4

Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm not allowed to say, and knowing my dad some very inappropriate jokes.

0:17.1

Shut up.

0:17.6

A victim of 400 years of conditioning.

0:19.8

Shut up.

0:22.6

The man has programmed my condition. Mm-hmm.

0:23.6

Even my conditioning has been conditioned.

0:25.6

Ah!

0:26.6

Ha!

0:27.6

The maiden boss has spoken.

0:32.6

Play no attention to that man behind the curtain.

0:43.3

Who are you?

0:45.3

Who are you?

0:47.3

I'm a very bad man.

0:49.3

I'm a very good man.

0:51.3

Good man.

0:59.0

They think deep thoughts, and with no more brains than you have. May no attention to that man.

1:02.0

Anybody can have a brain?

1:07.0

You're a very bad man. I'm a very good man. Just a very bad man i'm a very good man just a very bad wizard welcome to very bad wizards i'm tamler

1:18.0

summers from the university of houston dave the NBA finals kick off tomorrow and it's the

1:23.7

indiana pacer's versus the Oklahoma City Thunder.

1:30.9

Not exactly the biggest TV markets out there.

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