I am especially excited to introduce this guest today.

After almost 20 years of practice across the different meditative traditions,

I'm sitting here with the man who has probably had a deeper impact on me than just about anybody. And I feel a lot of gratitude

for his teaching and just for the person he is. I'm excited to get to share him with you today.

His name is John Kessler. He's in the studio with us. Welcome, John. Thank you, Tom. I'm so

pleased to be here. Yeah, thank you. So it's hard to know where to start. There's so much,

John. I hope this is just the beginning of many conversations we have with you on Mindfulness Plus,

but I wanted to get the ball rolling today and, you know, introduce you to the listeners of Mindfulness

Plus. Oh, wonderful. Thank you. Yeah.

So there's a lot to say about John.

It's telling that I've known John for 10 years and been studying with him for about that long.

And it seems that every time I meet somebody that knows John or I go to some conference where John's keynoting or some meeting that he's presiding over,

I hear about a new organization that he's a part of or on the board of, or was the driving

force and inspiration behind starting it. He's just involved in so many things, and it's a beautiful

example of, you know, the fruits of a mindfulness practice i i think

john um the way you show up in the world and you know how deeply engaged you are as a real

inspiration well thanks tom i mean i'm a real believer in what goes on inside of you as a reflection

of what you're doing in the world. So you need to have a

practice on both sides of that, I think. Oh, and I haven't seen that demonstrated, you know,

more powerfully with anyone than with you, John, not to flatter you. That's just, that's how it is.

Oh, thank you. So John has developed a practice called Integral Polarity Practice.

That's the inner practice, you could say, that we'll speak about a little bit today and explore.

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