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The Epstein case.

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none of the other than Annie McCarthy.

Rich, thank God you're back.

Well, you finally cut out the middleman.

I had to come back or, you finally cut out the middleman.

I had to come back or, you know, just the podcast would have rolled on without me.

That would have been it. Oh, man.

You know, for by loathies many years at National Review, I've often found myself sitting in front of my computer talking to myself, and there I was last week doing it for an hour but we're glad

to have you back well it's good it's good to be back so a lot to to get to so let's talk some

epstein i i'm still in the process of catching up on this story. By the time I've actually totally caught up,

it'll be out of the news. It's one of these things that a lot of really smart people have

followed it obsessively for like seven years, and I haven't followed it at all. And so I've had a lot

of catching up to do. So, you know, my, my assumption is that he, the, the original case against him was botched

because he had good lawyers and the prosecutors made bad judgments. There's a massive, I haven't

heard it, discussed many places, but a massive office of professional

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