I'm Ashley C. Ford, and I host Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Vox Creative.

For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs

that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What is up, everybody, and welcome to episode 306 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Sunday, September 19th, and I'm joined as often by Eric Cole.

Hello, sir.

Bradford, I have missed you.

I have been looking forward to talking baseball with you.

Great episode with Zach the other day, by the way.

Sounds like we're going to be doing something with Zach here pretty soon, too.

I was really excited to see that you had him on the show.

But I have missed you, to be sure.

I got a text from Zach.

This is probably, I'm not sure if I'm a lot of days or not.

It's okay.

He'll have to deal with it.

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