It's hard to describe it. It's really hard to describe the level of energy and some of it was you know anxiety because at this point as psychosis is walking out here for the very first match.

I am backstage not entirely convinced yet that Hall Kogan is going to actually do what we discussed doing.

There was a lot of concern about that and I've you know by this point even I

had known Hall for several years and had gotten pretty close to him. I knew him on a different level than just as a professional and a peer someone that I worked with. I knew him pretty well personally and I knew what he was influenced by. I knew what his concerns were and there was this concern, fear, whatever you want to call it in the back of my mind that when it came down to it there would be people around Hulk specifically his family that would possibly convince Hulk that making this move and turning Heil and all of that that entails might not happen.

So until Hall-Cogan showed up at the building,

which was halfway through this show,

I wasn't 100% sure he was going to show up.

So while I was excited about what could be,

I was also thinking a lot about,

okay, if it goes south, I need to make a move.

I can't wait to think about it until that point I've got to have a

solution in my back pocket so between the fun and the excitement and the

build up and the way the story had been going and all of the positive energy.

There was also a fair amount of concern on my part.

Well now you said his family, I want to circle back to that.

And by the way, we're talking over a hell of a match,

too, my very favorite W.C.W. Go. performers go out of your way to watch this one.

I love everything Ray Mysterio and psychosis ever did. This is not going to be an exception.

Anyway, I wanted to talk about the family comment you made.

I was, I'm paraphrasing.

I was concerned that someone, people close to him,

specifically his family,

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