So, our guest today is

joining us from, where are you at, John?

Thank you. Sonoma County outside of San Francisco

by the Nower North.

Okay, yeah, joining us from beautiful Sonoma County,

California, Mr. Jonathan Melrod, the author of the

recently released Fighting Times, out now on P.

I'm press, and I guess wherever we find books or sold,

or, uh, yeah, we've been trying to put this together, I guess,

for several weeks now, and I'd always go back to John

Hatton and like, yeah, man, something's come up again.

I'm so sorry. So I'm, I'm glad we finally get to, uh, get to

put it together.

Yeah, I am too.

Uh, I guess we'll start it out.

And we kind of, we kind of jumped into it a little early

before we were recording.

But you open this book up, which is basically your history

in, you know, with the UAW and trying to jumpstart some labor

militancy on the shop floor in, in the Midwest.

And also, it's a little autobiographical too, because the

context that you start the book from is, is your, uh, battle with

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