I'm Ashley C. Ford, and I host Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Vox Creative.

For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs

that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

Check out the latest mini-series on Into the Mix

of Ben and Jerry's podcast.

Subscribe now. What is up, everybody, and welcome to episode 301 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland, replacing the fantastic hosting duties from last week, but he's still here.

Scott Coleman, welcome aboard, and thank you again for stepping into the host chair last week.

It is so good to have you back, Brad.

I tip my hat to you.

That was, as you know, the first time I have ever

hosted a podcast. And it's more challenging than I would have expected. I know it takes a lot of work

and you do a lot of good prep work to get us ready for these. But yes, hosting a podcast is more

work than I realized.

Good to have you back.

I wanted to ask you, Brad, you visit Las Vegas quite a bit.

I know you're there for work, but outside of work, are you a cards man?

Are you a shows man?

Are you just sleep and get in an outman?

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