Yeah, maybe let's zero in on that for a second.

This was the Children's Joy Foundation, right?

That he set up and this is, he sets this up in 2007

in California, I believe.

And this becomes the kind of Locust Point

for his outreach in America.

And it seems like, maybe you can explain this a little bit more,

but what they would do is this church or this nonprofit, I guess.

We love nonprofits here at Truonon.

Would send out followers of the church,

she basically, you know, big for donations to the church,

but very aggressively.

And a lot of the people that were being sent out

were brought under, were brought to the US

under, let's say, circumstances not of their choosing.

Maybe she's explained that a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. So a lot of, I mean, this is actually,

to be frank, this is a common practice of churches

bringing, quote unquote church workers

from the Philippines to the US.

And then from there, it's really, really easy

for that it to become a labor trafficking scheme

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