We are recording today on the traditional, ancestral, and unseeded territories of the Coast Salish and Quakwakwakwak peoples, including Slaiwitou, Squamish, Musquiam, and Comox First Nations.

Hello and welcome to Love to Sew. I'm Caroline, the owner of Blackbird Fabrics and BF Patterns.

And I'm Helen, the designer behind Helen's closet patterns and Cedar Quilkow. We're two sewing buds who love to sew and it's essentially all we want to talk about. Today's guest is Lila Keller, Professor of Fashion Design, co-owner of Pattern Company, Munna and Broad, ready-to-wear designer for a space in between, and co-author of the new book plus-size pattern

making for women's wear. We talk with Lila about this groundbreaking book, her practical,

neutral approach to plus-size design and pattern drafting, and how to use the book as a home

sewist. If you love to sew, this is your show.

Hello, Lila, thank you so much for coming back on the show today.

Hi, Helen and Caroline. It's so nice to be back. Thank you for having me. Oh, we're so excited to chat with you again. You are, in fact, our very first ever repeat guest, which is super exciting. We interviewed you and the co-owner of Munna and Broad Jess six years ago, if you can believe that. It's been so long. So it's great to have you back.

Can you please reintroduce yourself to our listeners?

Absolutely. Wow. I can't believe it's actually been that long, but it also does feel like a long time. My name is Leila Kelleher. I would call myself a pattern designer. I'm a pattern maker.

I'm a fashion professor in the home sewing world. I'm a partner owner of

Monnet and Broad, which is a plus size sewing patent company, which is how we met last time.

Yes. Oh my gosh. Okay. You mentioned being a professor. So, Lila, what have you been up to since we last

spoke? So much. So the last time we spoke, I was also a professor, but I was a professor in health

sciences. And now I'm a professor of fashion design. I'm actually in my second full-time faculty

position in fashion design. So lots changed. So after we spoke last time, I ended up moving to

New York City to take up a job at Parsons School of Design,

where I was assistant professor of fashion design and social justice. I'm currently on leave

from there at the moment. And just this past January, I took up a new position at Toronto Metropolitan

University, which used to be called Ryerson University in Canada. So here I am. Incredible.

You're in your professor of fashion design era. We love it. Can you tell our listeners what

the size inclusion in fashion lab is? Absolutely. So me and my colleague Emily Huggard at Parsons decided that we really

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