30 seconds.

One time for the under the under down.

technician sequence star.

Let me see you put them up.

Reach the sky, touch the stars up above because it's one time for the underdow one time for the underdow

I'm Patrick Vereto be host to value Tim and today we're going to take a complete

different direction and talk about the best alternative to entrepreneurship.

So before I get into the episode, I want to tell you the story about what happened yesterday

that has everything to do with today's episode.

Yesterday, Kai from Norway, asked me a question and say, Pat, what do you think has more influence?

Nature or nurture, meaning were you born with it or were you raised and developed with it, right?

And I said, look, there's probably got to be a little bit of both, but there's probably more on this side than this side. However, I think a lot of people are forced into situations. Let me explain to you. Yes, I'm living in Germany, and my mom no money and my dad is in Iran trying to go to US and we're broke

You know we're living out a refugee camp and I have to figure out a way to make money because I want to buy the super

Nintendo because I like the school who's from

Czechoslovakia. So I figure right a way to make it work by going to a local pool and I make my 250 marks

so I go to Caliphov and I buy the super Nintendo. Yes, that could be a sign of a person saying,

you know, that's nature, Pat, but it also could be I was forced to do it

because I don't have any alternatives.

If my mother had the money to buy,

maybe I don't go to the swimming pool to collect a beer bottle.

So I can't answer that question for it, but I can tell you what happened later on,

on me deciding to start my own insurance agency, my own financial firm, I'm part of a company and I'm growing in this company and I never really

...