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🗓️ 25 January 2023
⏱️ 53 minutes
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In this episode three new elements of the case are discussed; an upstairs neighbor's testimony, witness statements about Ivan asking James for money before the murders, and a bloody shirt.
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0:00.0 | crime scene photos were bloody, very, very bloody. The crime scene was bloody. The person who |
0:06.3 | committed those murders was covered in blood. Every expert that I've talked to said there's no way |
0:12.1 | that that person or person was not covered in blood. That shirt was covered in blood. |
0:18.0 | In my opinion, the killer wore that shirt. |
0:28.3 | When I think it was according to trial, I have one shot more on opportunity to be not |
0:32.8 | guilty. Are I going to prison in death row? Mm-hmm. That's reality, Evan. |
0:38.6 | We have busted allies. We have caught people in line. This is just insane because everybody's |
0:45.6 | pointing the finger at somebody else. You just don't hear every day walking in somebody's |
0:51.1 | house are going to take the plastic out and pop somebody. So he could get the execution date |
0:56.3 | pretty much any day? Yeah. There's no impediment. This is Cousins by Blood. |
1:05.8 | Episode 30, The Bloody Shirt. This episode begins the second half of season three. |
1:14.3 | The final season of Cousins by Blood. |
1:25.1 | And this feels like a good time to do a quick recap of the timeline for the main days of focus |
1:30.7 | in this case. There are six days to keep in mind. It starts on November 2nd, 2000. |
1:40.0 | That night, the night that either the pizza man showed up at Ivan's apartment and threatened him |
1:47.2 | because James owed a lot of money and then this pizza man fired a bullet into their apartment wall. |
1:55.2 | Or the night that Ivan fired the bullet into the wall during an argument with Amy. |
2:02.5 | November 3rd, the night of Ivan's midnight visit to James and Amy Kitchen's house. |
2:12.4 | When Ivan said he went over to warn James about the pizza man and the money that was owed. |
2:20.6 | But then you have Amy's account that stated it was during this midnight visit that Ivan committed |
2:27.1 | the murders. Later that night, Ivan drove Amy Kitchen's Mercedes and James Corvette |
2:40.9 | as Ivan and his Amy hardy hopped until the morning hours of the 4th. |
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