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Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done. I think it's really beautiful. Jesus, what a struggle, you know? It was incredible. You know, it was like your head exploded, seeing what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listing. Just one person at just one time. Right, right. Okay, everybody, here we go again. This is it. This is other people. Welcome back to the program. It's good to be with you. Today's guest is Jamal Joseph. He's the author of a new memoir called Panther Baby. It's due out from Algonquin in February. The actual pub date, February 7th, 2012. And Jamal is an amazing guy. He's lived an unbelievable life and I think you're going to really

enjoy hearing from him. For those of you who don't know anything about him, he came of age in the

Black Panther movement as a teenager. He was one of the Panther 21, which was one of the more

emblematic court cases of the 60s. And he wound up spending time in prison as a young man, you know, as a young boy, really.

I think he was 16 and he was at Rikers Island and then he also spent time, you know, in Leavenworth,

federal prison and wound up getting multiple college degrees while he was there. And, you know,

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