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Before we begin, I just wanted to warn you, this episode contains descriptions of physical violence and war.

Previously on Hot Money.

At that point, we just kind of had this sense that Marcellic was this kind of man of action

and was mixed up somehow in Viennese politics.

I know politics is corrupt, I know everything and all that, I know that, I believe it and all that,

but this is too much.

I thought, I hope that he will talk to you and you will be able to investigate on it.

And perhaps misdeeds and misbehavior is stopped.

One happy more than this one. I'm in Tunis, the capital of Tunisia in North Africa.

I'm in a taxi on the way to meet Killian Kleinsmith.

When I first met Killian at Café Pruckel in Vienna, he began to unravel what he knew about Jan Marselech.

It was a fantastical tale. It seemed impossible to substantiate.

And as far as Killian was concerned at the time, it was absolutely not for publication.

But I believed it, and one of the reasons I did

was because I found out more about who Kiliin is.

Not just a fantasist, someone who should be taken deadly seriously.

Thank you, Mr.

We kept in touch, and now he's ready to talk to me on tape.

I can't tell you exactly where he lives.

In fact, we've put our phones in Faraday bags to come here,

electromagnetic shields that will stop the phones giving away our location.

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