Episode 3: Nice White Ladies Pay To Get Called Racist Over Dinner

Blocked and Reported

Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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4.6 • 4.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Jesse has a bad cough. Is it coronavirus, or just Jewishness? Katie, meanwhile, isn't quite sure what plant she turned into tea last week. Will either cohost outlive April? We'll see soon enough. In the meantime, the hosts debate whether coronavirus will kill the online culture wars, then segue accidentally into a discussion of gender identity and the complicated ways in which attempts to reduce misgendering can lead, as Katie has experienced, to yet more misgendering. Then Jesse complains about the Twitter cops who came at Jill Filipovic for her perfectly accurate tweet about the Spanish Legion (being hot), and both cohosts struggle to wrap their minds around the phenomenon of nice white ladies paying Sairo Rao and Regina Jackson to come to dinner at their houses and call them racist.
Show notes:
-How This Nonbinary Woman Created the Queerest Cartoon on Television (https://www.them.us/story/rebecca-sugar-steven-universe-interview) (them)
-Rebecca Sugar Opens Up About Being Non-binary (https://www.pride.com/comingout/2018/7/18/rebecca-sugar-opens-about-being-non-binary) (Pride)
-"They" Is a Fine Pronoun, But It Ain't Mine (https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/09/06/31903785/they-is-a-fine-pronoun-but-it-aint-mine/) (The Stranger)
-ContraPoints and the Scandal That Shouldn’t Be (https://arcdigital.media/contrapoints-and-the-scandal-that-shouldnt-be-15ac97f330d4) (Arc Digital)
-Jill Filipovic on the Spanish Legion (https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/1241857598778900481) (Twitter)
-Zoé Samudzi on (God help us) Jill Filipovic on the Spanish Legion (https://twitter.com/ztsamudzi/status/1242099153435582471) (Twitter)
-Why liberal white women pay a lot of money to learn over dinner how they're racist (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/03/race-to-dinner-party-racism-women) (The Guardian)
-White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism by Robin DiAngelo (https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414) (Amazon)
-Race Experts: How Racial Etiquette, Sensitivity Training, and New Age Therapy Hijacked the Civil Rights Revolution (https://www.amazon.com/Race-Experts-Etiquette-Sensitivity-Revolution-dp-039304873X/dp/039304873X/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=) by Elisabeth Lasch-Quinn (Amazon)

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0:00.0	I'm a little concerned about this cough.
0:10.0	Yeah.
0:11.0	So what people might not realize is that at this time of the year, Jewish people tend to
0:15.6	have all sorts of weird stuff going on in our bodies, mostly related to, I guess, like
0:19.7	early allergies.
0:20.7	So in this era of coronavirus, it's very hard to know what's what, but I'm confident I'm
0:25.6	not infected because I don't have other symptoms other than the dry cough.
0:30.2	But yeah, I just think people should know that this is an issue for a lot of us.
0:34.0	We tend to be just sort of like congested, stuffed up, whiny.
0:38.6	You know that.
0:39.6	I want to you a lot about whiny, rich, what are your goals?
0:43.9	Exactly.
0:44.9	We're going to get on the ADLs radar, but no.
0:47.7	Yeah.
0:48.7	To be clear, hashtag not all Jews, not all Jews get stuffed up in an allergy this time of
0:53.8	year, but this particular Jew does.
0:55.4	And I do not have the coronavirus.
0:57.4	But I also had a health question for you if that's okay.
1:01.1	Yeah, sure.
1:02.1	Oh, shoot.
1:03.1	The end of our last podcast, you left people on the cliffhanger.
1:07.3	You said that you went out together some kind of like needle, right?
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