Episode 299

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

True Crime, Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4 • 61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Ashley Bocanegra told everyone the attack was random, but deep down, she knew it wasn’t. Hours later, she was dead, and her attackers were on the hook for murder. What no one realized was that Ashley had been hiding a secret, and it was one she was determined to take to her grave.

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0:00.0	Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences.
0:06.3	Listener discretion is advised.
0:14.0	I will murder you. I will murder you. I will murder you. I will murder you. I will fucking murder you.
0:23.0	Why do we play this dumb music at the beginning of a show about murder?
0:28.9	I don't know, Karen.
0:30.4	Why do you listen to murder for entertainment?
0:33.7	It's a contradiction, isn't it?
0:36.0	This is episode 299 of Sort and Scale.
0:38.6	You know the drill. Thank you. It was a busy August evening at a hospital in Georgia.
1:34.9	Julian Reyes was sitting in a waiting room in his gray sweatsuit.
1:40.8	His fiance 30-year-old Ashley Bocanegra had suddenly died.
1:46.0	Detectives had just arrived at the hospital and sat down across from Julian.
1:51.0	Hey, you want to say, this is Detective Blackburn.
1:56.0	First, I just want to say, I'm really sorry for your loss.
1:59.0	We're going to do everything we can to find the people responsible.
2:01.6	You know, please.
2:03.6	No.
2:08.6	Oh, man.
2:11.6	I know this is really difficult right now.
2:13.6	It doesn't even seem real.
2:15.6	It's like, oh my God, every day, it's just a normal day. It doesn't even seem real. It's like, oh, my God, every day, it's just a normal day.
2:20.7	It doesn't even seem real.
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