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Very Bad Wizards

Episode 298: Pass the Peace Pipe

Very Bad Wizards

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.83K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Why do we punish people? How did our punishment practices evolve and what is their primary function? David and Tamler talk about a new paper that examines punitive justice in three small-scale societies - the Kiowa equestrian foragers in late 19th century North America, Mentawai horticulturalists in Indonesia, and Nuer pastoralists. The authors challenge the dominant view of punishment as a means of norm enforcement arguing instead that its main function is reconciliation, restoring cooperative relationships, and preventing further violence. Get ready for runaway pigs, peace pipes, wife stealing, banana stealing, black magic, leopard-skin chiefs, and David maybe finally coming around restorative justice.

Plus we choose from a long list of fantastic topic suggestions from our beloved Patreon supporters and narrow down to six finalists for the listener selected episode.

Fitouchi, L., & Singh, M. (2023). Punitive justice serves to restore reciprocal cooperation in three small-scale societies. Evolution and Human Behavior44(5), 502-514.

Third-party punishment [wikipedia.org]

Transcript

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0:00.0

Very Bad Wizards is a podcast with a philosopher, my dad, and psychologist Dave Vizarro,

0:06.0

having an informal discussion about issues in science and ethics.

0:09.4

Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm not allowed to say,

0:13.6

and knowing my dad, some very inappropriate jokes.

0:17.1

I know it. They're born that way, right? It's not their fault.

0:21.6

Frankly, I think they go about in pity for themselves.

0:25.6

The great end boss has spoken.

0:32.6

Play no attention to that man behind the curtain.

0:42.3

Who are you?

0:44.3

Who are you?

0:45.3

I'm a very bad man.

0:47.3

I'm a very good man.

0:49.3

Good man.

0:51.3

They think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have

0:56.5

pay no attention tonight man

1:00.1

anybody can have a brain

1:05.1

you're a very bad man

1:09.2

I'm a very good man just a very bad man. I'm a very good man.

1:11.6

Just a very bad wizard.

1:14.5

Welcome to Very Bad Wizards.

1:16.1

I'm Tamler Summers from the University of Houston.

1:19.0

I can't believe I keep saying that.

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