Hello, welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Kate Spencer, and I'm Dory Schifrier.

And look, we're not experts, okay?

We're not. We're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums and other things and so many other things

Although you're coming in hot because you're using a new moisturizer where what who okay there's a lot I don't

know right now I know I know look we had a break and a lot happened, I feel like you've gone like through a transformation over this kind of holiday down time.

And look, I understand I don't need to be brought along on every ride, but I am, let me just say I'm

excited to catch up and I want to know what?

So this brand reached out to me on Shop My which is like a you know the influencer platform that we use for product recommendations and they say can we send you some products we make

Like makeup brushes and we have a couple of skin care products.

And I said, yeah, great.

And they sent me some of their makeup brushes, which are lovely.

And they also sent me two of their moisturizers and their cleanser.

Their cleanser is lovely, I like it.

But I really like their moisturizers,

and I especially like their intense hydration cream. Now they describe it as a rich

and substantial texture. I think that this is what you, Kate Spencer, would describe as a thick cream.

Hashtag thick.

Hashtag thick. Okay, I'm listening. And what I like also, it is fragrance-free.

It is essential oils and

skincare. Oh, but I'm not really a fan. I feel like it's they're often they can be irritating to people's skin.

The fragrance I often personally find irritating and they just like sneak up on you like you're like

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