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For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

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And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs

that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Subscribe now. What's up everybody and welcome to episode 293 of the Talking Chop podcast.

I am your host, Brad Rowland.

It is Father's Day, although it won't be when we're done recording this.

Scott Coleman is here, and we are recording very, very late on Sunday and a Monday.

And that is why, at least in part, Scott, you are of so much value to me, because it's 8.30 where you are and 1130 where I am.

Yes. That West Coast time difference always pays off whenever we have to do one of these late,

especially after the Sunday night games, which of course the Braves are on.

But good to be on.

Happy Father's Day to all of our dad listeners out there.

Sunday was a fantastic sports day.

You have a double header for the Braves.

You have two NBA playoff games with the hometown Atlanta Hawks, of course, advancing.

Sorry.

Your Atlanta Hawks?

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