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i think all art should start from a place of i got to get this out i think when you start from come

like i wasn't writing um like a Marvel movie yeah you know which can be

creative but those are you're doing this to make money and have a franchise and I wrote this because I

had to it was a cathartic thing that I had to get out much like good on paper and you start working on it

and so I did not everything you make you hope to see come to fruition yeah but I wrote it because

I needed to get something out and I had to tell this story, at least just to myself. And then enough people read it and enough people believed in it that we were able to do it. Because there's plenty of stuff that you write that people don't believe in. Yeah. And this one just happened to work. Oh, that's great. But I did it for me first. And it's also a nice place to retreat to.

Yeah.

When the industry is so awful, you're like, well, I'll go, I'll go into my document where I'm the queen. I can kill anyone I want. Yeah. I can stuff my bra if I want. No one's going to know. So yeah, it's just like retaining the littlest bit of power. Yeah, that's great.

It's breaking bread.

Nice to see you.

Nice to see you. Thanks for being here.

Thanks for having me.

I know. I baked this for you this morning. Good, because I canceled last time and you were like, I grabbed you a store butloaf. I know. And I was like, it better be fresh. This gave me the opportunity to actually bake for you. You really baked that? Yeah, this morning. What kind of, is it sourdough? It's sourdough. It looks great. Yeah, right? Do we open it now? Open it. Do we turn it on now? You can bring it home. I know, I know your husband is a fancy chef. He's been on this Breaking Bread podcast. He Noah. Yeah, and he told me to say hi. He loves you. Yeah, he was great. I really liked him a lot. My dad loves you. Oh, really? Yeah. That's nice. I feel like when I hear people are like, oh my God, my mom loves you. I'm like, what about you? What about you? What about the younger? What about the

daughters? You know what I get a lot when I'm at shows? I'll have a lot of times couples will come up

and the guy will go, you're her favorite. Okay. You know what? I'm glad it's not just like a

misogynist quest against me. That makes me feel so much

better. Yeah. Because I'll get a lot of times like I don't like I don't think you're funny, but my wife loves you. Or I dragged my husband here. I'm like, we don't need that part. And I have your money and I'm pretty sure you had a good time. The worst, they like you. And you're just like, What about you, you fucking loser?

Yeah, exactly.

I know.

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