Should people not join the green party and try to make those kind of

improved? I don't think people should join the green party. I don't think the

green party has a perspective and vision of socialist transformation. I don't

think it recognizes the particular role of the working class. I think even the

name green itself implies a lack of respect for the permanence of the working

class at the point of production and the need for growth and prosperity rooted

in the working class, particularly industrial workers.

So change the name. But come on. The green party is that it's got a bad name and

that it's like run by people who don't want it to run it and it's got a

direction that you don't like. Well, it helps. Here's Cornel West who you say you

like so much. Will need to go and say I'm going to be the new face of the green

party. Is that not an opportunity for exactly the kind of changes that you're

advocating? At the DS say that also has these leadership issues. I think that

the DS say needs a perspective and a strategy towards an actual break with the

Democratic Party in central way that forms a dependent party that's

viable and strong and for a stronger green party. But when's that going to happen?

I think that's more viable than imagining a future where the green party is a

strong opposition that would say one in five working class Americans support.

So the question is what route? So in other words, the Cornel West route to me in

the green party is a less viable route to that left working class opposition.

Less viable than what? It's not happening. Today is today. And there is an election

that's happening in 2024, point blank period. So whatever fantasy world where the

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