So Jimmy, you're eager to talk about your pants.

So let's talk about your pants.

My pants.

Oh yeah, I was talking about my podcast.

No, the pants are well underway that being made this week. It's been a struggle.

I'm not, every time I talk about it, I might have to preface that with it's been a struggle.

It's been a lot of work behind the scenes. I mean the biggest problem is me and my business partner.

He said no immediately and I said, well let's just give this a try.

And now here we are almost two years later and there's been a lot of struggles a lot of arguments

It got to a point where I was like we could end this right now

I'm okay with it. I have no emotional attachment to it and he's like know what, we've gone far enough, it looks

cool, it's impressive, people want to know what you're up to, let's go forward with it. So for branding

purposes, we did it. We sold 200 pairs and maybe 200 change pairs and then

then 50 25 jackets and then

an extra 50 average sizes that will be available so

We are making that many and that's it and then I'm hoping

to find somebody to take over the licensing. I do not want to manufacture pants.

I know Alec is doing it. I can only imagine the struggles he went through. I assume he hired somebody to deal with it like I did. Christine has handled it from beginning to end. Christine used to work for Ralph

Laren, making jeans for Ralph Laren. She used to have her own gene company, which

was fairly successful for a minute, and that's all she's ever done is work on jeans that's why her

Instagram name is the godmother of Denham and when she met me she really didn't have

too much of a social media present she's a few years older than me and she didn't

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