And so now you're just like, I mean, what?

It's 2023 now, you're looking back at this

and you're just like, what the fuck was that?

Because that seemed like it took up like,

now I mean, the Ives that you worked there in 2016,

but then you sort of had this relationship

that like came out of that.

Right.

And there's just a lot there for you.

And after that, I wrote an article in Medium talking

about having worked there.

And I was kind of a liberal article at the time.

Like it was in response to the Mueller Russian troll farms.

And I kind of compared my experience

to the Russian troll farms and how much of the Trump campaign

was simulation, how much was real,

how much of a campaign really was there.

And that got everybody calling me.

I ended up getting calls from NBC, New York Times,

ABC in Australia, vice news, all my favorite layoffs.

Yeah, layoffs, the worst interview was with vice.

Really?

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