It is a Thursday the 17th of September 2020 and you're listening to Skeptics with the

Kaye, the Podcast for Science, Reason and Critical Thinking. Skeptics with the Kaye is a production of the Merseys Skeptic Society,

a non-profit organization for the promotion of scientific skepticism

on Merseys around the UK and internationally.

I am your host, Mike Hall, with me today is Marsh. Hello and Alice.

Hello. So lockdown has been slowly easing in the UK over the last few weeks to the point

where it's probably too loose and you know things are

starting to go quite badly again. I walked around the park,

Sefton Park near where I live yesterday and saw a group of 40 people who were very clearly like it looked like a big sort of family do there was lots of kind of women and kids and old people and they were just hugging and kissing on the cheek and sitting within millimeters of each other.

And this comes at a point where the government announced you can no longer meet the 30 people

outside that you weren't allowed to meet previously but now you definitely

you never were allowed to meet them it's only six people which was all it ever

was but now it definitely is only that it was this was the day before that rule

came in and honestly there was people just stood watching them and taking photos

like have you missed the pando here as it slipped you but like turn your phone off airplane

mode and just dip into the news a little bit you'll see see some stuff. So yeah, lockdown has eased on a little bit too far, so far, I'd say.

I think it's got a little bit too far.

But while it was slacking off, I started making some tentative excursions to the outdoors.

Started stepping bleary-eyed into the sun.

Like a little vol that's been hibernating.

Which I think is good for everybody, but I think it's especially good for you. I think you could potentially use lockdown to lock down a little too

harshly. And so I ended up I went to a Korean barbecue. That's cool. Like a restaurant that was a

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