Episode 283: When Elephants Podcast

Very Bad Wizards

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

David and Tamler talk about Caitrin Keiper’s wonderful sprawling essay on elephant life and society and the many philosophical questions surrounding these extraordinary creatures. What kind of mental states can we attribute to them? Do they have a kind of language? Are they moral? What are our moral duties to them? What accounts for the long-standing taboo against ‘anthropomorphizing’ elephants and other complex non-human animals? And lots more.

Plus, a new segment “there should be a German word for this” - we come up with new German words for common phenomena or experiences. And a big announcement in the promo segment about the podcast going forward.

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Links:

Do Elephants Have Souls? by Caitrin Keiper [thenewatlantis.com]

Transcript

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0:00.0	Very Bad Wizards is a podcast with a philosopher, my dad, and a psychologist Dave Vizarro,
0:06.0	having an informal discussion about issues and science and ethics.
0:09.4	Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm not allowed to say and knowing my dad
0:15.0	some very inappropriate jokes.
0:17.0	Pretending to strongly believe in something that you don't is great preparation for being like a lawyer
0:22.1	or a stepdad.
0:23.8	You just have to stuff down your feelings and stop believing in anything.
0:27.4	The Great and House has spoken.
0:34.0	Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
0:41.0	Who are you? A very bad man? I'm a very good man.
0:47.0	Good man. They think deep thought, and with no more brains than you have.
0:58.0	Pay no more brains than you have.
0:59.0	Pay no attention very bad man.
1:07.0	Anybody can have a brain.
1:11.0	You're a very bad man. I'm a very good man, just a very bad wizard.
1:17.0	Welcome to very bad Wizards.
1:18.0	I'm Tamler Summers from the University of Houston.
1:21.0	Dave, my new puppy, Trixie, is starting to settle in and I already love her so much, like desperately.
1:27.8	But am I being disloyal to Chuck E and Omar? You know, it's a good question.
1:35.0	I've had friends who's one of the parents dies and like the other parent
1:40.0	started dating so fast that you're just like, were you thinking about it before?
1:44.0	Like, was this somebody you had lined up?
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