Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.

I am Kate Spencer, and I am Dory Shafryer.

And we're not experts.

We're not. We're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

Hello, Dory. Hello, Kate.

Sometimes I wonder, anytime I pack a carry on bag, I have to sit and think to myself, am I bringing serums?

Oh, interesting.

Like, because I'm, because they take up room and like I personally find little tiny carrying things for

appointments and whatnot, kind of annoying.

Uh-huh, uh-huh.

So, I don't know. It's just a thought I had.

Although, you know what I bought that is actually very good for traveling?

Tell me.

I bought this rock, R-O-C, retinol.

And it comes, it's called the retinol correction line, smoothing night serum capsules.

So what I've done is like, I'll just throw a couple of these capsules into my little toiletry kit.

Okay. And that is how I bring my retinol with me when I travel.

Interesting, Kate.

Yeah.

I don't mean, I don't know if it's a good solution or a bad solution, but that's what I've done.

I find that I end up traveling with like one serum.

Which is the one?

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