Episode 28

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

History, Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.0 • 63.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2014

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Everyone thought Joshua Gouker was a dangerous criminal. It was easy to convict him of murdering his 14-year-old step son Trey Zwicker, especially after he suddenly changed his plea to guilty and confessed. But why would a hardened criminal mastermind, who had several friends and family members at his command and lying for him, suddenly confess at trial without a plea bargain in place? The answer is that his son, who he proudly referred to as a demon child, was also on trial for the same murder, and although he was only 15 when Zwicker died, he was being tried as an adult. The bond between this father and son duo is stronger than you would expect given the fact that neither of them seem to have a moral compass of any sort. We'll delve into the incredible details of this case, which gives new meaning to the words "like father, like son."

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0:00.0	He said then Tray's mom had an abortion of his child and that he wanted an eye for a night.
0:16.0	And he went to talk his son into killing Trey
0:21.6	and that he said that he didn't have to do much persuasion
0:27.6	because his son was a demon child,
0:32.6	that he was more than willing to do it.
0:36.6	He said that his son
0:41.3	despised Trey as much as he despised Terry.
0:46.3	Trey's father.
0:48.3	Trey's father. Hello and welcome to SORTN'SKIN-Skale, episode 28, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real.
1:20.5	This episode is part two of a story called Demon Child, a story of a father and son who were both charged with the murder
1:29.3	of a 14-year-old Louisville boy named Trey's Wicker.
1:33.2	Now, if you haven't heard part one, you'll want to go and listen to it in episode 27.
1:38.2	Otherwise, you may be a little lost because this story seems to have a variety of people
1:42.9	with questionable morals, which makes it a bit hard
1:46.7	to keep track of who's who.
1:48.6	But we'll do our best to sort out this dysfunctional family
1:52.2	and the horrible secret that some of them may still be hiding,
1:57.4	and why one of them may have gotten away with murder.
2:14.7	Basically, I'm just going to ask you a couple quick questions.
2:18.8	It doesn't make sure I have your birthday again, just so we know we're talking to the right person josh young and your birthday is
2:21.5	january 6th 1996 okay this is 17 year old josh young josh galker's son i mean your life
2:29.6	was pretty good while your dad was a person got in that you had a much better situation i mean i love my dad
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