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And now, without further ado, I welcome to this very podcast

through the miracle of Riverside. Nanda da-da-than, Annie McCarthy. Rich, how are you? I'm not too bad,

Andy. You? I'm good. I'm fighting my annual November cold. Comes for all of us. Yep. You could set your watch by it.

But what do I have to complain about?

I have to say I have a different mindset about Trump this time around because I think the last

week has reminded everyone, because we've forgotten

this after four years, of how exhausting Trump is. And I've just decided he is not exhausting me.

I'm not doing it this time. You're not going to have an exhausted mindset or you're not going

to follow every end of every end and out?

I think that, you know, we observed this a number of times when he was president, but it always seemed to me like if you just looked at it at a month at a time, every day for 30 days, there would be some kind of hijinks or antics that would make you just,

you know, something great would happen and then he'd do something halacious and it was up

and down. But if you looked at where the country was at the beginning of the month and you

looked at where the country was at the end of the month, it was kind of in the same place.

You know, so it was, it was almost like soap opera.

You know, there's a lot of drama, but in the end, a lot of it is just gas bag stuff.

And it's hard to imagine how it's just like probably noise and nonsense because some of it is is deadly serious stuff.

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