Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA and Side Track, the podcast that's like reading in your car, but safer.

I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruise, and with me as always are my fabulous co-hosts.

Hey, Rob, it's me, Diana.

Hey, Rob, it's me, Alan.

Wait a minute, Alan.

Alan, you're not always here.

Wait a minute.

I seem to have stumbled into a book club episode of our podcast about behavior analysis and behavior analytic research.

But how could that be?

Because it's also a regular episode of the show.

What kind of crazy amalgamation have we created here?

My goodness.

Well, for listeners here, because I didn't know which order

we were doing these bits, you'll also get a second introduction very soon. But we had an

opportunity to talk with Dr. Linda LeBond and Dr. Amanda Carson about their new book, Ethics,

proactive and practical decision-making for behavior analysts. And since it's a book, Ethics, proactive and practical decision-making for behavior analysts.

And since it's a book, and since it's the summer of book clubs, we said, you know what,

let's do both.

Let's make it an episode where we talk about the book like we would research articles,

which we do every other week.

And you know what?

Let's get Alan on

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