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Very Bad Wizards

Episode 277: The Merits of Buggery (Nagel's "Sexual Perversion")

Very Bad Wizards

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.83K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2024

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

David and Tamler play the old hits – Thomas Nagel and sex robots. In the main segment we talk about Nagel’s essay “Sexual Perversion”, a surprising essay on many fronts (Sartre, erotic fiction, conceptual analysis, much more). What’s the nature of sexual desires? Can we say that some sexual interactions are perversions? Which ones? Can we have a perverse form of a hunger? Plus, a new study examines attitudes about sexual assault by probing for intuitions on assaulting sex robots. It gets more confusing from there.

Links:

Grigoreva, A. D., Rottman, J., & Tasimi, A. (2024). When does “no” mean no? Insights from sex robots. Cognition, 244, 105687.

Nagel, T. (1969). Sexual perversion. The Journal of Philosophy, 5-17.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Very Bad Wizards is a podcast with a philosopher, my dad, and a psychologist Dave Vizarro,

0:06.0

having an informal discussion about issues and science and ethics.

0:09.4

Please note that the discussion contains bad words that I'm not allowed to say and knowing my dad

0:14.5

some very inappropriate jokes. Wow so you're a sex addict too. Sex sex sex

0:21.5

what can I say?

0:22.6

Right, I mean, you said it all.

0:24.7

The way in the way.

0:28.7

The waiting has spoken.

0:32.1

Pay no attention to that man behind a curtain.

0:36.0

Who are you?

0:42.0

Who are you? A very bad man. I'm a very good man. Good man.

0:50.0

They think he thought and with no more brains than you have.

0:55.0

May no attention to that man.

1:00.0

Anybody can have a brain?

1:04.0

You're a very bad man.

1:08.0

I'm a very good man.

1:10.0

Just a very bad wizard. Welcome a very bad wizard.

1:13.4

Welcome to very bad wizards. I'm Tandler Summers from the University of Houston.

1:17.4

Dave, Twitter was melting down today over the perceived Oscar nomination snubs of Greta Gerwig for Best Director and

1:25.4

Margot Robbie for her performance as Barbie which did receive eight nominations

1:30.7

including Best Picture Hillary Clinton, your girl,

1:34.0

tweeted out her support for Gerwick saying that both of them were more than

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