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🗓️ 27 July 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Follow the Minds of Madness on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:07.2 | To listen to our episodes early in ad-free and get access to monthly exclusive episodes, go to patreon.com |
| 0:15.8 | slash madnesspod. |
| 0:18.2 | You can also hit subscribe on Apple Podcasts |
| 0:20.8 | for ad-free episodes. |
| 0:22.4 | We've got links |
| 0:23.1 | in our show notes. |
| 0:24.8 | The opinions expressed |
| 0:26.3 | in the following episode |
| 0:27.5 | do not necessarily reflect |
| 0:29.0 | those of the minds |
| 0:29.8 | of madness podcast. |
| 0:31.6 | Listener discretion is advised. |
| 0:33.3 | Music The I'm sure you've heard the phrase, catch-22. |
| 1:08.8 | It describes a cruel kind of trap, a dilemma that has no clear escape. |
| 1:15.0 | Damned if you do, damned if you don't. |
| 1:18.7 | The phrase comes from a 1961 novel by Joseph Heller about a World War II bomber pilot |
| 1:25.1 | desperate to stop flying dangerous combat missions, but he's |
| 1:29.4 | trapped in a paradox. |
| 1:32.4 | According to Air Force rules, a pilot didn't have to fly if he was declared insane. |
| 1:38.8 | But to be declared insane, he had to ask for an evaluation. And asking, that was taken as proof of sanity. |
| 1:48.2 | There was no way out. In 1998, a suburban Wisconsin woman found herself caught in a real-life |
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