Thanks for tuning into this episode of the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Zach Bitter.

All right, folks, welcome back to another interview episode of the Human Performance Outliers

podcast. I am your host, Zach Bitter. Today I am welcoming in a very

exciting guest, I think for me and a lot of the listeners. This one is Ben Patrick or more well

known as the knees over toes guy. So Ben has a really, really interesting backscore story about just having the worst issues with his own needs to the point where it jeopardized his athletic career, essentially.

And it started playing him as early as high school.

And rather than kind of giving up on his passion of basketball, he found a way to work with his body

and bulletproof the areas that were previously causing him the most grief. If you watch Ben

participate in basketball or basically anything in the gym these days, you would never guess he

had any knee issues. You'd think he was some sort of genetic freak who just had

bulletproof body parts and could tolerate a insane amount of abuse but really it's a lot of hard work

and ben went through years and years of development starting from zero to where now he can do

some incredibly big tasks in some awkward positions.

So a lot of times when we talk about strength work and we talk about proper form and technique,

we're looking at things that are kind of ideal or what is the most ideal way to place our body.

Anyone who's played sports realizes that when you're in the middle of it when you're in the thick of

it whether that be practice scrimmaging or a game itself you're just going to find your body

moving in positions you didn't really expect it to and you need to be ready for those type of

positions basketball may be one of the best examples of that when you're jumping and moving

laterally forward backwards and all sorts of angles and things like that.

You need to have strong support so that you don't damage areas that are vulnerable to impact forces.

So Ben had me come out and meet him while he was here in Austin and walked me through a workout that

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