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EPISODE 27 Jack Johnson (Part 2): The Fight

History on Fire

Daniele Bolelli

Society & Culture

4.75.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2017

⏱️ 124 minutes

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“And it was fast cars and whiskey Long legged girls and fun I had everything that money could bring And I took it all with a gun” from the song I’ve Never Picked Cotton “Johnson did not care. He had no use for the bourgeois values of thrift and respectability.” Randy Roberts   “You don’t catch Jim Jeffries losing to a colored man.” Jim Jeffries “Quite conceivably there had never been a more important athletic event in American history.” Randy Roberts “Even those who have an absurdly exaggerated horror of prize fighting as a ‘brutal’ sport should gently warm in their sensitive minds a little hope that the white man may not lose, while the rest of us will wait in open anxiety the news that he has licked the—well, since it must be in print, let us say the negro, even though it is not the first word that comes to the tongue’s tip.” New York Times     By 1900, the federal government had long abandoned Reconstruction, and white supremacy was returning to the South with a vengeance. Jim Crow was in full swing. Segregation was the law of the land. And Fifty years before Jackie Robinson challenged segregation in baseball, there was Jack Johnson. Lynching was a weekly event. Any black man in the South not acting subservient could find himself dangling from a tree. Even African American leaders like Booker T. Washington preached that accepting segregation, keeping one’s head down, and working hard were the best options for black people. Jack Johnson clearly didn’t get the memo. At this time when simply looking a white man in the eyes, or talking to a white woman, could get one lynched, Jack Johnson made a living beating the hell out of white men in the ring. Living defiantly as if prejudice didn’t exist—he felt—was the best way to defeat racism. It would be easy to mistake Jack Johnson’s story simply as a tale of standing up to racism. It’s about that—sure. But it’s also about a lot more. Because as much Jack Johnson stared down white supremacy, he also battled those black people who insisted that he behaved like a hard-working, God-fearing role model. But JJ wasn’t about to trade a cage for another. He wouldn’t be anyone’s puppet. He would have no master telling him how to live—not white ones, but no black ones either. His story is the tale of a man who, in spite of a time and place that would not allow it, was on a defiant quest to be free, and live life on his own terms. In this episode: -Public Enemy Number One -At home in the integrated criminal underworld -Ladies and fast cars -Jack Johnson’s intellectual side -The Great White Hope -Knocking out and befriending Stanley “The Assassin” Ketchel -“I am going into this fight for the sole purpose of proving that a white man is better than a negro.” Jim Jeffries -Why the Governor of California prohibited the fight -Death threats and attempted poisonings -Jack Johnson’s eerie calm under pressure -A spectator: “He’ll kill you, Jack.” Jack Johnson: “That’s what they all say.” -The verbal fight with Jim Corbett -Triumph and riots in over 50 cities Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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History is not like something like math. It's something that can have potentially many

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right answers and many different perspectives and many different ways to look at things.

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And what that means is sometimes when you're taking a tour through the past, the guide

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that you have at the time is key. And you can take the same tour multiple times. But

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if you have a different guide, they'll point out different things, emphasize different

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things. How often have you read two different books on the same historical event and gotten

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different perspectives? The perspective of the storyteller matters. Whether you like history or not,

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if you care about things like bravery, wisdom, and passion, and larger than life characters,

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and some of the most emotionally intense moments in the human experience,

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you've come to the right place and a chance to get a perspective from a different kind of

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historical tour guide. Daniela Belelli is a university history professor, a writer, a martial

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artist, a philosopher, and it provides a very different sort of tour guide through the past

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than you normally encounter. And this tour, he'll be your guide in a journey to the place where

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history and epic collide.

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Welcome to episode 27 of History on Fire. Today, it's going to be part two of a three-part series

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about the life of Jack Johnson. Before we start, a few announcements. First, if you are

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or you think you could actually pick up some tips regarding some great products that may be out

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there associated with History on Fire, then stick around for the next little bit as I give thanks

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to some of the people who keep us in business. The first folks I would like to thank are sweet people

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