Hello, and thank you for listening to The History of World War II podcast.

Episode 269, an interview with Dr. David Stahill about his latest book Retreat from Moscow,

a new history of Germany's winter campaign, 1941-42.

Dr. Stahill is an expert on the Eastern Front, having written numerous books on the subject,

such as Operation Barbarossa and Germany's Defeat in the East, the battle for Moscow, Kiev,

1941, Operation Typhoon, Hitler's March on Moscow, October, 1941, and, though not lastly,

Nazi policy on the Eastern Front, 1941. And Dr. Stahill, thank you very much for being with us today.

Thank you for having me. Yes, I am so excited to have you on all the books you've written, all the

research you've done, because even though I've been reading about World War II for a very long time,

after going through your latest book Retreat from Moscow, I don't think I'd even to this day fully

appreciated just the complexity, the vastness, the number of characters on this stage, everybody's

kind of, you know, in some ways focused on themselves and how can they not be. But I think even to

this day, I don't think we have a firm grasp of all that was going on in the Eastern Front

that would end up determining how World War II is going to play out.

Oh, look, that's, I think it's a very good reading on goal. In fact,

one of the questions I often get from people is, oh, you do World War II history,

but hasn't that all been done? I mean, how many books are wrong or two are they? And I often think,

look, on one level, I'm glad that you're laughing there, because I think those of us who are

well read in the area, on the one hand, I guess we do see why people would say that at the same time,

when you're on the inside, you realize just how many topics haven't been done. And I think that's

true of most of World War II, actually, I think if we could project ourselves 200 years into the future,

we would see how many things we didn't know at 2019. That's the thing to remember. There will be

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