Katie, you know, I think I owe Jamel Bowie an apology.

Really? What did you do? Did you steal his lunch money?

Usually quicker or whittier than that. Steal his his ledge one it's not a good line um you're

the funny one katie come on well did you give him a swirly be minus wedgy in a recent episode we talked

about the new york times reporting on zoran mamdani uh and specifically at sourcing there was an article

uh but co-authored by friend of the podcast, Ben Ryan,

that was based on hacked Columbia University files.

Zorn Mamdani said he was a black, Jewish, Irish, Slav.

I think I have that right?

I know.

He said he ticked African-American.

Born in Uganda, we talked about it.

Anyway, these hacked files were acquired by the times via Twitter user

Kremot, aka Creamy, aka Creamy Dressing, aka his legal name, Jordan Lasker.

You always got to make it sexual, don't you? It's just a creamy story. There's cream

everywhere. I'm covered in cream as we record this. Creamy is, uh, creamy is absolutely a guy who

Can we just call him Creamo? Creamo, okay. That's like much closer to the actual name. Wait,

there's something called Vermont creamy. Yes, there's a C-R-E-M-E is a unique Vermont soft serve that's overrated but often maple flavored.

So, creamy.

We can do creamy.

Fine.

But when we say it, we're talking about the soft-serve thing.

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