Episode 268: Kenneth White

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

Society & Culture, News, True Crime

4.5 • 10K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

At about 8:30 p.m. on October 18th of 2017, 32-year-old Kenneth Andrew White is going home after working at a construction site in Au Gres, Michigan. Sitting in the passenger seat of his colleague’s van, Kenneth and his coworker are only ten minutes away from their destination in Mt. Morris. Suddenly, a six-pound rock crashes through the front windshield. Kenneth is hit in the head and knocked unconscious. Shortly after, Kenneth is declared dead. Days later, investigators discover the culprits behind this deadly rock: five teenage boys from Clio, Michigan, aged 15 to 17. The group was known for throwing hard objects off highway overpasses for the purpose of causing vehicular damage. After years of controversial court proceedings, only one of the Clio Five would be sentenced as an adult. In episode 268, Jac and Alexis examine how five teenagers with no criminal history killed an innocent bystander through a dangerous “game.”

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0:00.0	First degree, first degree, first degree, first degree, first degree, first degree, the first degree.
0:09.0	Get on the news, get on the paper, get on the paper.
0:13.0	These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.
0:22.0	Mark was kind of, I would say, leader of everything.
0:26.0	Since we were little kids, I didn't like him.
0:29.0	I always would telemocate him like, he's going to get you in trouble.
0:32.0	He just had this vibe of, he was going to do something wrong.
0:37.0	And he really didn't care who it was going to hurt.
0:41.0	I remember my mom was like calling me into the room and I was like, what?
0:45.0	And she's like, well, they just arrested him and four other boys.
0:49.0	I remember being like, in shock.
0:52.0	And I kind of obsessed over it for quite a while.
0:57.0	Like, what were you doing?
0:59.0	Like, why are you throwing rocks off of a bridge?
1:02.0	And then finding out it was more than just rocks.
1:05.0	Welcome to the first degree, the true crime podcast that you might end up on.
1:09.0	My name is Jack Fanick.
1:10.0	I'm sitting here with a Lexus link letter.
1:12.0	I forgot which intro I'm doing.
1:13.0	We have so many different intros.
1:15.0	Do I say my last name?
1:16.0	That's for the Patreon.
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