Hey, friend, welcome back to the YouTube channel for the Renaissance English History podcast.

I'm your host, Heather. I've been podcasting on Tudor England since 2009 with my show,

making it the original Tudor History podcast. Today, this is a very special video. This is an

interview with Helen Castor. Helen Castor is an acclaimed medieval and tutor historian. Her first book, The Past and Family in the Wars of the

Roses, was long listed for what is now known as the Bally Gifford Prize for nonfiction and won

the English Association's Beatrice White Prize. Her next two books, She Wolves, the women who

ruled England before Elizabeth, and Joan of Arc, a history, were both on numerous best books of the year lists and made into documentaries for BBC television.

And Joan of Arc was long listed for the Penn America Jacqueline Bogart-Weld Award for Biography.

She has one son and lives in London. On a personal level, I was delighted to interview Helen Castor. I've been watching her documentaries and reading

her books for 15 years. And what a thrill it was to get to speak with her about her new book, which is about

the relationship between Henry V. 4 and Richard II. It's a psychological profile of these two men.

So in this interview, we talk about how these events from the late 14th century impact the tutors. We're going to look at it from a tutor perspective.

And we're also going to talk about why people who are 16th century enthusiasts would also enjoy

learning more about this period. If this is new to you, she'll introduce the topic. Her new book is

called The Eagle and the Heart, the tragedy of

Richard II and Henry IV. And I've read it. It's so good. Highly recommend it. So let's get

right into it with Helen Castor. This new book, so we are talking on a tutor history podcast

and YouTube channel, this new book is a good 100, 120 some years before that period.

So for a lot of people who are listening to this podcast, watching this interview, they might not be as familiar with the story of Henry the 4th and Richard the second.

They might have come across it through Shakespeare, but not know the details. So before we get it, I think there's a wonderful discussion to be had around the intersection of tutor memory and the way they saw history and propaganda. But before we get in, that's what my question's center around. But before we get into that, I would love if you could just give us a background for people who are coming to this story fresh. Of course. And I have to say, I have a very

dear friend here with whom I've talked virtually every week while I was writing the book. And I've found

that virtually every week I've had to say, this Richard, Richard the second, is not Richard

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