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The First Degree

Episode 267: Robert Lovvorn Herren, Jr.

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

Society & Culture, News, True Crime

4.510K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On April 17th of 1989, 31-year-old Cathy Marie Symanowski shoots and kills 38-year-old Robert “Lovvorn” Herren, Jr., with a semi-automatic rifle in Woodland, Alabama. Cathy met Lovvorn when he was hired by Cathy’s husband a few years earlier. At that time, Cathy and Lovvorn engaged in a short-lived romantic affair. Afterward, Lovvorn attempted to end his relationship with Cathy. In response, Cathy relentlessly stalked Lovvorn. In the spring of 1990, Cathy is convicted for murdering Lovvorn and sentenced to life in prison. In February of 2002, 45-year-old Cathy is released from prison on parole. Ten years later, in December of 2012, 54-year-old Cathy attempts to shoot and kill yet another one of her romantic partners: 68-year-old Gerald Eugene Palmer. Moments after this second murder attempt, Cathy dies by suicide. Miraculously, Gerald survives. In episode 267, Jac and Alexis explore the winding road that led one woman to hurt multiple men whom she claimed to love.

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The first degree, the first degree, the first degree, the first degree, the first degree.

0:13.6

These things are supposed to happen in movies, not in real life.

0:19.2

He was doing everything he could to stay away from her, not answering her phone calls,

0:26.9

and she must have gotten so frustrated.

0:29.2

He said, you know, I can't get her to answer the phone.

0:32.7

I said, well, it's happy.

0:33.9

It's probably, you know, I know you're married and everything else, that's because I'm going

0:37.7

to go find it.

0:38.7

You know, I have to track him down.

0:40.7

He was unstoppable.

0:41.9

You could not stop her.

0:45.3

Welcome to the first degree, the True Crime Podcast, that you might end up on.

0:48.5

My name is Jack Vannick.

0:49.5

I'm sitting here with Alexis Linkletter.

0:51.2

We are officially back from France.

0:53.2

We're a little bit rusty, but I think that we're going to power through this episode 100

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percent.

0:58.7

The rest is just a state of mind, and we are going to transcend.

1:02.8

Absolutely.

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