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The History of Byzantium

Episode 267 - Provincial Separatism with Nathan Websdale

The History of Byzantium

Robin Pierson

History

4.84.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Nathan Websdale is a PHD candidate at Oxford University and President of the Oxford University Byzantine Society. His work is focussed on ethnic identification, social inclusion and self-determination in the Byzantine World, c.1200-c.1230.

Nathan graduated with a BA (First Class) in History from Royal Holloway, University of London in 2016 and an MA (Merit) in Late Antique and Byzantine Studies from the Intercollegiate University of London in 2017.


I talk to Nathan about the thorny issue of provincial separatism before and after the Fourth Crusade. 


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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to the history of Byzantium, episode 267, Provincial Separatism

0:16.8

with Nathan Webstale.

0:20.8

One of the big questions surrounding the fourth crusade is the issue of Provincial

0:24.5

Separatism.

0:26.6

Human provinces have rarely, if ever, tried to break away from Constantinople during the

0:31.2

course of this podcast.

0:34.0

But in the wake of Manoel's death and Andronicus's disastrous reign, Provincial rebels began

0:39.9

to behave differently than their predecessors.

0:44.0

Instead of using their rebellions to launch a bid for the throne, they began to simply

0:47.9

cut ties with the capital and create local statelets instead.

0:54.3

What was going on here?

0:56.1

Was this simply a post-Manoel development?

0:59.3

Or a post-manzacert scenario?

1:03.7

What lay underneath it was it circumstantial or did it hint at long-term problems and

1:09.0

do events after 1204 tell us more about what was really happening?

1:15.4

These are the sorts of questions I'm hoping to tackle in the next couple of episodes.

1:19.8

I thought I'd start by talking to someone who is studying these issues right now.

1:24.7

Nathan Webstale is a PhD candidate at Oxford University and president of the Byzantine

1:29.9

Society there.

1:32.3

We sat down and had a chat about some of the theories which exist to explain the developments

1:37.1

of this era.

1:38.8

We talk about events you are familiar with, like the Bulgarian uprising and the coup of

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