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Carolina Crimes

EPISODE 264: "Justice Aborted, Justice Returned": The Tragedy of Carl Smalls

Carolina Crimes

Matt Hiers and Danielle Myers

True Crime

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

In 2002, a college football player was visiting a Columbia, SC nightclub when he fell victim to being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and around the wrong people. When the investigation settled and justice was served a weak spot in the justice system was exposed 20 years later.

Transcript

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0:00.0

For over 350 years, the state of South Carolina has been the setting for some of the most horrendous crimes ever committed.

0:14.4

Some have gained global notoriety. Some have been forgotten. And others have been swept under the rug completely.

0:23.1

Now, two South Carolina natives and true crime enthusiasts have teamed up to examine these heinous acts in detail,

0:31.0

giving their perspective of the evil that has resided in the Palmetto State.

0:36.5

You're listening to Carolina Crimes.

0:41.7

And welcome back to Carolina Crimes, episode 264.

0:47.4

We're over the moon.

0:49.1

Thrill that you joined us here on this week's episode.

0:51.4

I'm one of your host, Matt Hires, along with.

0:53.4

Daniel Myers. And thank you so much for joining us this week's episode. I'm one of your host, Matt Hires, along with Daniel Myers. And thank you

0:55.3

so much for joining us this week. Last week, we had a super wild one at a Johnsonville, South Carolina.

1:03.4

We appreciate all the feedback. Everybody got in on that. We appreciate Jenny Kierce sitting in with us as well.

1:11.5

That's a lot of fun.

1:12.1

What a breath of fresh air.

1:14.4

I can tell she makes friends fast.

1:16.7

Oh, definitely.

1:17.8

Super, super cool lady.

1:19.9

Looking forward to giving you details about her podcast when it starts coming out.

1:24.1

But we're very grateful for you, very grateful for our five-year kind of online celebration a little bit

1:30.3

and maybe we'll have to do something a little bigger and more celebratory but Danielle you've got

1:37.4

one for us this week but before we get started we're going to take care of a couple housekeeping news and notes. First of all,

1:47.3

if you're not already following us on social media, check us out on Facebook at Carolina

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