that war machine did not work well with squeaky wheels.

The war machine worked well where everybody just forgot

about their own feelings, their own fears,

and just were willing to work and be disposable.

And women gave us the same message.

Lois Lane had no interest in Clark Kent to express feelings.

She only had interest in Superman.

Now, once she found out he was Superman, then she thought she could add to him by helping him express feelings.

But zero interest in the person who expressed feelings without first being Superman.

And you see this in movie after movie and theme after theme and in real life. Yolts in

Yolts Good everybody this is our fees and I hope you guys are having a great day today. We are back with another conversation and I have to bring you somebody who is such a pioneer in helping men grow helping men develop.

There's so many people in this world who are doing amazing things for men and if we were going to be having any form of platform that helps men become the best person themselves, we had to bring this next guest or please without

further ado welcome to the show the one and only Warren Farrell

happy to be here. I didn't. I was waiting for you to pick up the next step but sorry about that. No problem, no problem. Warren, welcome to Shaw you doing today.

I'm doing real well, especially because I'm looking forward to talking with you.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Really appreciate it. I think it's going to be a great conversation help a lot of people out.

So Warren, for those who don't know who you are and what you do, can you please give a brief elevator

pitch synopsis about who you are, what you do and your general background?

Sure, my background in this area started out at being on the Board of Directors of the National

Organization for Women in New York City and speaking all around the world on behalf of women's issues.

And then I started to form the National Organization for Women asked me to be on their board

of directors after I had started a number of men's consciousness

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