Hello and welcome to worst bestsellers where we read about Dampiers, Strigoy, and

Maroy. Oh my. So you don't have to. I'm Renata. And I'm Kate. And for this episode,

we read Vampire Academy by Rochelle Mead. Joining us to discuss this Y.A. novel about an Academy for

vampires is Sarah Elizabeth Gallagher, author of Why We Love and Hate Twilight, The Highs and Lows of the Twilight Saga.

Hi, Sarah.

Hi.

How are you?

Thank you for having me.

My gosh, so excited to talk to you.

So excited to talk to you about vampires.

This is such a good, I think, pairing of guests and content. I'm just, I'm thrilled that, you know, that our vision boards brought it to life.

Yeah, I am too. I have a history with this book, with these books. So I always like to, obviously not the same kind of history that I have with Twilight, but. I mean, that's the thing is who does, you know?

No, no, no.

Like, Vampire Academy was always popular and had its moment and has had, like, a movie

and a TV adaptation both?

Oh, both doomed.

Both absolutely doomed.

I, yeah, I haven't...

Actually, maybe I saw the movie a long time ago.

I definitely haven't seen the TV one. I would not, to anyone, I haven't, actually, maybe I said the movie a long time ago. I definitely haven't seen the TV one.

I would not, to anyone, I would not recommend it for even, it's terrible. That's too bad. It's too bad. It is. It is.

But anyway, Sarah is someone who I first discovered via Instagram Reels because that's how I mostly encounter video

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